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		<title>By: NoMiss</title>
		<link>http://nmisscommentor.com/2009/07/03/nah-only-dead-fish-go-with-the-flow/comment-page-2/#comment-7103</link>
		<dc:creator>NoMiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone! Please deliver us from Levi Johnston! This public obsession with Sarah Palin has now evolved to the lowest level. Ann Currie on NBC&#039;s Today show just did an interview with Levi Johnston as the &quot;expert&quot; on all things about Sarah Palin. A main accusation of Levi about Palin was that she quit her job as governor to make money from her fame. Johnston doesn&#039;t think Palin should be President because she can&#039;t handle the stress of the job. He said all the attention she got as VP candidate went to her head, and she wants that attention again.

By the way, Levi appears in photo shots in the current GQ Magazine, has just accepted some modeling offers, and is considering appearing in some reality tv shows. He said he&#039;s had numerous offers in acting and modeling since he starred in real life as the nineteen year-old who &quot;knocked up&quot; Palin&#039;s daughter, Bristol. (So far as I know, that&#039;s his only claim to fame. Did he even graduate from high school?) He says he&#039;s considering the many modeling and tv offers he&#039;s received since he starred in Palin&#039;s VP race. (Wasn&#039;t it Palin he just accused of cashing in?)  Oh, he&#039;s also planning to write a book about Sarah Palin! He&#039;s writing the book about Palin because he thinks everyone should know about Palin and who she is. 

It is astounding to me that this guy is now being courted by the national media as the authority on Sarah Palin. I also learned that he called his own press conference several days ago to give his personal opinion of why Palin left the governorship. His press conference was covered by the Associated Press and written coverage of his press conference was printed in newspapers throughout the U.S. Amazing!

What has this society come to when we allow a nineteen-year-old whose only known achievement is impregnating a young female to become a national spokesperson!

Meanwhile, I wonder if NBC is interested in the fact that Sotomayor is beginning her confirmation hearings today for U.S. Supreme Court Justice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone! Please deliver us from Levi Johnston! This public obsession with Sarah Palin has now evolved to the lowest level. Ann Currie on NBC&#8217;s Today show just did an interview with Levi Johnston as the &#8220;expert&#8221; on all things about Sarah Palin. A main accusation of Levi about Palin was that she quit her job as governor to make money from her fame. Johnston doesn&#8217;t think Palin should be President because she can&#8217;t handle the stress of the job. He said all the attention she got as VP candidate went to her head, and she wants that attention again.</p>
<p>By the way, Levi appears in photo shots in the current GQ Magazine, has just accepted some modeling offers, and is considering appearing in some reality tv shows. He said he&#8217;s had numerous offers in acting and modeling since he starred in real life as the nineteen year-old who &#8220;knocked up&#8221; Palin&#8217;s daughter, Bristol. (So far as I know, that&#8217;s his only claim to fame. Did he even graduate from high school?) He says he&#8217;s considering the many modeling and tv offers he&#8217;s received since he starred in Palin&#8217;s VP race. (Wasn&#8217;t it Palin he just accused of cashing in?)  Oh, he&#8217;s also planning to write a book about Sarah Palin! He&#8217;s writing the book about Palin because he thinks everyone should know about Palin and who she is. </p>
<p>It is astounding to me that this guy is now being courted by the national media as the authority on Sarah Palin. I also learned that he called his own press conference several days ago to give his personal opinion of why Palin left the governorship. His press conference was covered by the Associated Press and written coverage of his press conference was printed in newspapers throughout the U.S. Amazing!</p>
<p>What has this society come to when we allow a nineteen-year-old whose only known achievement is impregnating a young female to become a national spokesperson!</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I wonder if NBC is interested in the fact that Sotomayor is beginning her confirmation hearings today for U.S. Supreme Court Justice?</p>
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		<title>By: NoMiss</title>
		<link>http://nmisscommentor.com/2009/07/03/nah-only-dead-fish-go-with-the-flow/comment-page-2/#comment-6910</link>
		<dc:creator>NoMiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread was posted July 3rd, and it&#039;s still active on July 8th. See what I mean? Sarah Palin creates a buzz. People love to read about and talk about Sarah Palin. And in the media, that means money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread was posted July 3rd, and it&#8217;s still active on July 8th. See what I mean? Sarah Palin creates a buzz. People love to read about and talk about Sarah Palin. And in the media, that means money.</p>
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		<title>By: Tightlip</title>
		<link>http://nmisscommentor.com/2009/07/03/nah-only-dead-fish-go-with-the-flow/comment-page-2/#comment-6905</link>
		<dc:creator>Tightlip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I suppose no matter how many times you get up in the morning to do it, putting lipstick on a pit bull never gets any easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I suppose no matter how many times you get up in the morning to do it, putting lipstick on a pit bull never gets any easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN article has Palin&#039;s spokeshuman stating that &quot;the governor needed a break after being on duty two and a half years solid.&quot;

Who woulda thought that getting elected to a four year term would be longer than two and a half years? The devil is in the details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN article has Palin&#8217;s spokeshuman stating that &#8220;the governor needed a break after being on duty two and a half years solid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who woulda thought that getting elected to a four year term would be longer than two and a half years? The devil is in the details.</p>
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		<title>By: NMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>NMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Most VP candidates who lose go back to obscurity.&quot;

I don&#039;t think so. I immediately thought of one obscure vp loser, Franklin Roosevelt (nominated in 1924). But that was a long time ago.

Leaving losing incumbents out of this, lets see

Edwards (2004) made a run at the presidency instead of disappearing (2008)
Lieberman (2000) didn&#039;t go away but I wish he&#039;d done so.
Jack Kemp (1996) I guess faded away-- that was some sort of last hurrah
Lloyd Bentsen (1988) went on to be Secretary of the Treasury, not entirely an obscure position
Geraldine Ferraro (1984) obscure wins on that one, but she annoyingly showed back up last year
Dole (1976) stayed a powerful senator, later a Presidential nominee (1996)
Muskie (1968) made a run at the presidency instead of disappearing (1976)
William Miller (1964) disappeared, in a big way, to the point of being in an AmEx &quot;do you know me&quot; commercial
Henry Cabot Lodge (1960) lots of ambassador positions.  Estes Kefauver (1956) and John Sparkman (1952) stayed powerful senators.  Earl Warren (1948) surely some of you remember him being chief justice of the United States Supreme Court from 1954 until about 1970?  

I don&#039;t think it can reasonably be said that VP losers fade away, particularly those who crave attention (Edwards, Lieberman), or who have longstanding national ambitions (Dole) or achieve that Senator-senior-statesman status (Bentsen, Sparkman, Kefauver).  The ones that go to some level of obscurity (Miller, Ferraro) are the rarer ones.

I think Sarah Palin&#039;s implosion may make her go the way of William Miller, but that&#039;s not what she wants or intends, and may be wishful thinking on my part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most VP candidates who lose go back to obscurity.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so. I immediately thought of one obscure vp loser, Franklin Roosevelt (nominated in 1924). But that was a long time ago.</p>
<p>Leaving losing incumbents out of this, lets see</p>
<p>Edwards (2004) made a run at the presidency instead of disappearing (2008)<br />
Lieberman (2000) didn&#8217;t go away but I wish he&#8217;d done so.<br />
Jack Kemp (1996) I guess faded away&#8211; that was some sort of last hurrah<br />
Lloyd Bentsen (1988) went on to be Secretary of the Treasury, not entirely an obscure position<br />
Geraldine Ferraro (1984) obscure wins on that one, but she annoyingly showed back up last year<br />
Dole (1976) stayed a powerful senator, later a Presidential nominee (1996)<br />
Muskie (1968) made a run at the presidency instead of disappearing (1976)<br />
William Miller (1964) disappeared, in a big way, to the point of being in an AmEx &#8220;do you know me&#8221; commercial<br />
Henry Cabot Lodge (1960) lots of ambassador positions.  Estes Kefauver (1956) and John Sparkman (1952) stayed powerful senators.  Earl Warren (1948) surely some of you remember him being chief justice of the United States Supreme Court from 1954 until about 1970?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it can reasonably be said that VP losers fade away, particularly those who crave attention (Edwards, Lieberman), or who have longstanding national ambitions (Dole) or achieve that Senator-senior-statesman status (Bentsen, Sparkman, Kefauver).  The ones that go to some level of obscurity (Miller, Ferraro) are the rarer ones.</p>
<p>I think Sarah Palin&#8217;s implosion may make her go the way of William Miller, but that&#8217;s not what she wants or intends, and may be wishful thinking on my part.</p>
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		<title>By: RazorRedux</title>
		<link>http://nmisscommentor.com/2009/07/03/nah-only-dead-fish-go-with-the-flow/comment-page-2/#comment-6838</link>
		<dc:creator>RazorRedux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to bet that NOTHING said on this thread changes anyone&#039;s views on Sarah Palin. Unless Ms. Razor moves out and she moves in, I&#039;m over her.

P.S. Ms. Razor has approved this message. And adds, &quot;Why are they even bothering to talk about her? And I liked her...a little bit. But she couldn&#039;t possibly be President.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to bet that NOTHING said on this thread changes anyone&#8217;s views on Sarah Palin. Unless Ms. Razor moves out and she moves in, I&#8217;m over her.</p>
<p>P.S. Ms. Razor has approved this message. And adds, &#8220;Why are they even bothering to talk about her? And I liked her&#8230;a little bit. But she couldn&#8217;t possibly be President.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pr1954</title>
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		<dc:creator>pr1954</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Afotl, I&#039;ll bite, since you are settin&#039;the stage on how this goes, please list those 50 instances, but you&#039;ll have to put away the hip boots...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Afotl, I&#8217;ll bite, since you are settin&#8217;the stage on how this goes, please list those 50 instances, but you&#8217;ll have to put away the hip boots&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pr1954</title>
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		<dc:creator>pr1954</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Afotl, got your hipboots????....Bwaaaaaaa!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Afotl, got your hipboots????&#8230;.Bwaaaaaaa!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: a friend of the law</title>
		<link>http://nmisscommentor.com/2009/07/03/nah-only-dead-fish-go-with-the-flow/comment-page-2/#comment-6834</link>
		<dc:creator>a friend of the law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dastardly dangerous woman. Indeed. Burn her at the stake.  Surely you are not suggesting that the examples of Palin &quot;putting herself out there&quot; actually justify the mistreatment she and her family have received over the last few months. 

And if you want to get into previous statements and reversals, I could give at least 50 examples of Obama doing the same thing, just 6 months into his first term. They all do it from time to time. 

The obsession continues. Exhibit A: Bellesouth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dastardly dangerous woman. Indeed. Burn her at the stake.  Surely you are not suggesting that the examples of Palin &#8220;putting herself out there&#8221; actually justify the mistreatment she and her family have received over the last few months. </p>
<p>And if you want to get into previous statements and reversals, I could give at least 50 examples of Obama doing the same thing, just 6 months into his first term. They all do it from time to time. </p>
<p>The obsession continues. Exhibit A: Bellesouth</p>
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		<title>By: bellesouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>bellesouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/06/palin-perceived-whine/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flashback: Palin said that women complaining about ‘excess criticism’ don’t ‘do us any good.’&lt;/a&gt;
 
Since announcing that she would resign as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin (R) has been blaming her decision on the “main stream media” and political operatives who accused her of “all sorts of frivolous ethics violations.” However, last year, Palin pointedly criticized Hillary Clinton during the presidential election for complaining about “excess criticism” and being put under “a sharper microscope”:

&lt;blockquote&gt;PALIN: Fair or unfair, I think she does herself a disservice to even mention it. You gotta to plow through that. You have to know what you&#039;re getting into -- which, I say this with all due respect to Hillary Clinton, and to her experience and to her passion for changing the status quo also -- but but when I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or you know maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, “Man that doesn’t do us any good — women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country.” I don’t think it bodes well for her, a statement like that. Because, again, fair or unfair, it is there, I think that’s reality, and I think it’s a given. I think people can just accept that she is going to be under the sharper microscope. So be it. I mean, work harder, prove yourself to an even greater degree that you’re capable, that you’re going to be the best candidate, and that of course is what she wants us to believe at this point.  So it bothers me a little bit hearing her bring that attention to herself on that level.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/06/palin-perceived-whine/" rel="nofollow">Flashback: Palin said that women complaining about ‘excess criticism’ don’t ‘do us any good.’</a></p>
<p>Since announcing that she would resign as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin (R) has been blaming her decision on the “main stream media” and political operatives who accused her of “all sorts of frivolous ethics violations.” However, last year, Palin pointedly criticized Hillary Clinton during the presidential election for complaining about “excess criticism” and being put under “a sharper microscope”:</p>
<blockquote><p>PALIN: Fair or unfair, I think she does herself a disservice to even mention it. You gotta to plow through that. You have to know what you&#8217;re getting into &#8212; which, I say this with all due respect to Hillary Clinton, and to her experience and to her passion for changing the status quo also &#8212; but but when I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or you know maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think, “Man that doesn’t do us any good — women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country.” I don’t think it bodes well for her, a statement like that. Because, again, fair or unfair, it is there, I think that’s reality, and I think it’s a given. I think people can just accept that she is going to be under the sharper microscope. So be it. I mean, work harder, prove yourself to an even greater degree that you’re capable, that you’re going to be the best candidate, and that of course is what she wants us to believe at this point.  So it bothers me a little bit hearing her bring that attention to herself on that level.
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