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	<title>Comments on: The oversimplifications and intellectual dishonesties of RFK, Jr.&#8217;s utterances on the Paul Minor case make me want to barf.</title>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to the CNN piece, I have to say I&#039;m a little offended by the victim&#039;s rights groups that they think they know individual cases and child lifers that they can lobby against them collectively. There is vengeance and ignorance there.

In the child lifer case I&#039;ve gotten involved in the victim&#039;s rights woman shows up at court and in my opinion prevents any possible healing between the family because her presence is a reminder to the family that they shouldn&#039;t and can&#039;t heal, cause they are eternally victims. She says so. This victim&#039;s rights woman does not know the family, the case or the lifer, she just shows up with her notebook and plops down in the courtroom next to the &quot;victims&quot; and acts like she is important in some way. Plus, the way she got involved in the first place was she offered the &quot;family member victims&quot; money. The victim&#039;s were paid by the victim&#039;s rights folks. I felt that this woman was somewhat of a wedge and it made me angry and sad. I want to see the family heal, I know they can. But she is always lurking. I just don&#039;t get it. I personally think she should mind her own business if she can&#039;t be of some positive help.

I hope the legislatures do the right thing and don&#039;t let politics dictate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the CNN piece, I have to say I&#8217;m a little offended by the victim&#8217;s rights groups that they think they know individual cases and child lifers that they can lobby against them collectively. There is vengeance and ignorance there.</p>
<p>In the child lifer case I&#8217;ve gotten involved in the victim&#8217;s rights woman shows up at court and in my opinion prevents any possible healing between the family because her presence is a reminder to the family that they shouldn&#8217;t and can&#8217;t heal, cause they are eternally victims. She says so. This victim&#8217;s rights woman does not know the family, the case or the lifer, she just shows up with her notebook and plops down in the courtroom next to the &#8220;victims&#8221; and acts like she is important in some way. Plus, the way she got involved in the first place was she offered the &#8220;family member victims&#8221; money. The victim&#8217;s were paid by the victim&#8217;s rights folks. I felt that this woman was somewhat of a wedge and it made me angry and sad. I want to see the family heal, I know they can. But she is always lurking. I just don&#8217;t get it. I personally think she should mind her own business if she can&#8217;t be of some positive help.</p>
<p>I hope the legislatures do the right thing and don&#8217;t let politics dictate.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m definitely going to file a complaint when and if this is ever over, even though I know it won&#039;t go anywhere. I just want it on file just in case. This was only one of the questionable things they did to get the conviction. This was the least despicable but just as damaging. Hopefully (not), this retired prosecutor can live with himself. That&#039;s punishment the bar can&#039;t inflict, so it&#039;s some consolation that crap like this haunts in the middle of the night, maybe. I won&#039;t count on that either. 
Ben, I&#039;m gonna watch the CNN video link you posted sometime today. Thanks for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m definitely going to file a complaint when and if this is ever over, even though I know it won&#8217;t go anywhere. I just want it on file just in case. This was only one of the questionable things they did to get the conviction. This was the least despicable but just as damaging. Hopefully (not), this retired prosecutor can live with himself. That&#8217;s punishment the bar can&#8217;t inflict, so it&#8217;s some consolation that crap like this haunts in the middle of the night, maybe. I won&#8217;t count on that either.<br />
Ben, I&#8217;m gonna watch the CNN video link you posted sometime today. Thanks for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Said but true comments as not much recourse where prosecutor&#039;s guilty of misconduct, whether Fed or State. The Court (Judge) or Bar Complaint is only remedy.

As to Scruggs II or III, BOP shows Dickie still &quot;In Transit&quot; does anyone know if he&#039;s still at Lafayette County Jail?  That can&#039;t be any better than other local jails?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Said but true comments as not much recourse where prosecutor&#8217;s guilty of misconduct, whether Fed or State. The Court (Judge) or Bar Complaint is only remedy.</p>
<p>As to Scruggs II or III, BOP shows Dickie still &#8220;In Transit&#8221; does anyone know if he&#8217;s still at Lafayette County Jail?  That can&#8217;t be any better than other local jails?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey's Mom</title>
		<link>http://nmisscommentor.com/law/the-oversimplifications-and-intellectual-dishonesty-of-rfk-jrs-utterances-on-the-paul-minor-case-make-me-want-to-barf/comment-page-1/#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey's Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam:  the bar won&#039;t help and the Mississippi Supreme Court probably won&#039;t either but still complain.  You never know if enough complaints pile up perhaps the tipping point will be reached one day during your lifetime and something will happen one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam:  the bar won&#8217;t help and the Mississippi Supreme Court probably won&#8217;t either but still complain.  You never know if enough complaints pile up perhaps the tipping point will be reached one day during your lifetime and something will happen one day.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey's Mom</title>
		<link>http://nmisscommentor.com/law/the-oversimplifications-and-intellectual-dishonesty-of-rfk-jrs-utterances-on-the-paul-minor-case-make-me-want-to-barf/comment-page-1/#comment-1244</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikey's Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam @ 9:15:  not even a snowball&#039;s chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam @ 9:15:  not even a snowball&#8217;s chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMTL @ 12:26. Yeah ... I thought about including the bar in that list, but decided the cosmetology board has more clout. The bar is not much more than a grown-up&#039;s version of student council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMTL @ 12:26. Yeah &#8230; I thought about including the bar in that list, but decided the cosmetology board has more clout. The bar is not much more than a grown-up&#8217;s version of student council.</p>
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		<title>By: Madison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;States do have review processes for prosecutorial conduct&quot;  Good Luck with that if you decide to give it a try Pam.  I am sure while kennebunklegal is accurate it probably will not amount to much.  More than likey nothing will come of what happened in the case Pam is mentioning even if she went through the process.  The prosecutors would just say they made an innocent mistake . . .  or it was never their intent ...  With that said, if you do not try you will never know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;States do have review processes for prosecutorial conduct&#8221;  Good Luck with that if you decide to give it a try Pam.  I am sure while kennebunklegal is accurate it probably will not amount to much.  More than likey nothing will come of what happened in the case Pam is mentioning even if she went through the process.  The prosecutors would just say they made an innocent mistake . . .  or it was never their intent &#8230;  With that said, if you do not try you will never know.</p>
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		<title>By: kennebunklegal</title>
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		<dc:creator>kennebunklegal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 19:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>States do have review processes for prosecutorial conduct. Some even use them. For example, the prosecutor in the Duke University lacrosse team rape case was disbarred  for unethical conduct, and the chairman of the disciplinary committee blamed &quot;political ambition&quot; for his downfall. http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/06/16/duke.lacrosse/index.html. 

AS OMTL notes the body to which the report should be made initially is the Mississippi Bar. Whether the same rigor is or will be applied in Mississippi depends on what the citizens of Mississippi demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>States do have review processes for prosecutorial conduct. Some even use them. For example, the prosecutor in the Duke University lacrosse team rape case was disbarred  for unethical conduct, and the chairman of the disciplinary committee blamed &#8220;political ambition&#8221; for his downfall. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/06/16/duke.lacrosse/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/06/16/duke.lacrosse/index.html</a>. </p>
<p>AS OMTL notes the body to which the report should be made initially is the Mississippi Bar. Whether the same rigor is or will be applied in Mississippi depends on what the citizens of Mississippi demand.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think what I said made any sense. What I meant to say was the pretrial motion to supress the statement was never ruled on by the judge and it was oddly withdrawn at the start of the trial. The defense decided to keep it in and put the boy on the stand. That was the extent of the defense. The boy and the coerced statement. And as it turned out the boy and the coerced statement with redacted information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think what I said made any sense. What I meant to say was the pretrial motion to supress the statement was never ruled on by the judge and it was oddly withdrawn at the start of the trial. The defense decided to keep it in and put the boy on the stand. That was the extent of the defense. The boy and the coerced statement. And as it turned out the boy and the coerced statement with redacted information.</p>
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		<title>By: pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the boy that I&#039;m supporting legally had a trial that was equal to a kangaroo court. It featured Dr. Hayne and the usual cops &amp; robbers on the State&#039;s side, and the boy witness on the defense side. It lasted 2-1/2 days and a boy of 15 has a life sentence.

An example of ONE of the State&#039;s shenanegans-the DA came up short on copies of the boy&#039;s illegally otained statement that the judge never ruled on until the motion to suppress was strangely withdrawn at the start of the trial. When it was discovered they were short a few copies, the DA snatched the copy off the table in front of him and asked the judge if he could make the photocopies. Coincidentally, the newly made copies included redacted information. The next day a juror reported it to the judge and the judge asked the jurors who had the redacted information on their copy if they could set it aside. They of course said they could. The boy&#039;s lawyers spoke with him for a few minutes convincing him he didn&#039;t need to declare a mistrial. His parents were not consulted. I know what the redacted information was. It would be damaging un-explained. Since it was never able to be examined because it was snuck in it was potentially very damaging. Examined, it would not have carried much weight and it was irrelevent to the current case, completely unrelated, but wouldn&#039;t look good on the face. This must be the oldest trick in the DA handbook. If you can&#039;t get it in, sneak it in and hope there won&#039;t be a mistrial. 

The good thing, is the case has made it&#039;s way back to the trial judge, via the Supreme Court on a PCR, so hopefully there will be some justice. But what of the prosecutors who did every sneaky and thing to get this conviction in cahoots with the Sheriff&#039;s department. Do they have any responsibility whatsoever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the boy that I&#8217;m supporting legally had a trial that was equal to a kangaroo court. It featured Dr. Hayne and the usual cops &amp; robbers on the State&#8217;s side, and the boy witness on the defense side. It lasted 2-1/2 days and a boy of 15 has a life sentence.</p>
<p>An example of ONE of the State&#8217;s shenanegans-the DA came up short on copies of the boy&#8217;s illegally otained statement that the judge never ruled on until the motion to suppress was strangely withdrawn at the start of the trial. When it was discovered they were short a few copies, the DA snatched the copy off the table in front of him and asked the judge if he could make the photocopies. Coincidentally, the newly made copies included redacted information. The next day a juror reported it to the judge and the judge asked the jurors who had the redacted information on their copy if they could set it aside. They of course said they could. The boy&#8217;s lawyers spoke with him for a few minutes convincing him he didn&#8217;t need to declare a mistrial. His parents were not consulted. I know what the redacted information was. It would be damaging un-explained. Since it was never able to be examined because it was snuck in it was potentially very damaging. Examined, it would not have carried much weight and it was irrelevent to the current case, completely unrelated, but wouldn&#8217;t look good on the face. This must be the oldest trick in the DA handbook. If you can&#8217;t get it in, sneak it in and hope there won&#8217;t be a mistrial. </p>
<p>The good thing, is the case has made it&#8217;s way back to the trial judge, via the Supreme Court on a PCR, so hopefully there will be some justice. But what of the prosecutors who did every sneaky and thing to get this conviction in cahoots with the Sheriff&#8217;s department. Do they have any responsibility whatsoever?</p>
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